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MG Midget and Sprite Technical - Mk III dies when main beams cut on
| The 1973 Mk III that I've owned for 20 years had been sitting unloved for about four years in my garage for a variety of reasons, none of which are particularly reasonable but I digress.  We're moving from that house and needed to move the car - a new battery, brake system bleed and jumper cables and the old girl fired right up.  I reregistered the car (and a 36 year old car needs no inspection/MOT in this state!) and I've now been driving her around for a week and was testing the lights here in the driveway of our new home.  Indicators - check.  Brake lights - check.  Low beams - check.  Main beams - engine dies.  No ignition light on dash.  Car was stone cold dead.  I worked the turn signal/beam dip and got the ignition light back and the car fired immediately.  Tap the brakes - dies.  For a while it seems that anything related to lighting or the horn killed the car.  I wasn't able to tear into the car and troubleshoot that day; tried it the next day and the car fired, lights worked for a while then the symptoms returned, invariably when I used the main beams.  But it also seemed to be heat related - I suspect something's heating up and grounding out. I'm going to go into it this weekend but I was hoping somebody here has seen similar issues and could offer a bit of guidance. Many thanks and best, Craig Zeni Cary NC USA | 
| C L Zeni | 
| I got a brother in Angier NC just outside of raleigh...No he is not mechanically gifted, My inital guess is your about to have a large car fire, most likely a short somewhere in the wiring loom. So make sure you get a quick battry disconnect and keep the battry disconnected when your not working on it Look for sharp metal edgs and bad burn spots, broken or cut insulation, and a big thing...Screws in the wiring loom. namly self tapers....it seems this is a somewhat common occurance...think back...did you put any screws anywhere in the car? Prop | 
| Props Black Hole | 
| No sheet metal screws...the car is remarkably unmodified from that perspective which is one of the reasons I bought it.  I've done the Nissan 5 speed and the tube shock conversions but nothing else.  It doesn't even have a radio and hasn't for years... Good idea on the battery disconnect - I'll pull the positive cable off until I get a disconnect. | 
| C L Zeni | 
| when the car dies...how dead does it go...LOL (Sorry), I mean does nothing work, like there was no battry is installed...or does somethings/anything  work Prop | 
| Props Black Hole | 
| It's 100% stone dead. Nothing works. No starter, no electrical of any sort...as if there's no battery in the car. | 
| C L Zeni | 
| Check the connections on the battery and solenoid first: - battery +ve and connection to solenoid - battery -ve connection to earth - solenoid battery post nut reasonably tight; this also has fat brown to loom - check fat brown on solenoid makes good contact and hasn't deteriorated. BTW - if you can relaibly get the car into this state, you should be able to trace the +ve volts from the batter, through the solenoid to the fuse-box where the fat-brown joins. Tell us what you see. A | 
| Anthony Cutler | 
| Don't understand where Prop is coming from but I have to agree with Ant, sounds like a bad earth on the battery/ engine / body or a poor battery connections. It sounds like when the failing connection is "loaded up" then the connection goes open circuit, classic symptoms | 
| Robert (Bob) Midget Turbo | 
| SORTED! I took the wires/cables off of the starter relay earlier today, gave them all a good cleaning as well as the battery connection. I turned on every electrical item in the car after it was good and hot under the hood - no issues. Drove the car around for half an hour - no issues when previously it would have died in about 5 minutes. Thanks to Anthony and Robert for your insights. And came back from the test drive giggling like an eight year old - there is nothing as entertaining as a midget! | 
| C L Zeni | 
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