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MG MGA - Spin on oil filter

I bought a Moss 235-940 spin on oil filter adapter. What oil filter does it take? Moss only shows their Part # not the filter maker's #. If I knew the Fram or other part # I could cross it to the brand I use.
Thanks Randy
R J Brown

Try GFE443 filter from Unipart . It work very good for me . Maybe there is a substitute number in other brand . I order mines from " Obselete Automotive " in Ontario Canada .

Jules .

jdes@sympatico.ca
Jules

Randy the Fram number is PH 3600.
Tony
Tony Shoviak

NAPA Gold #1516. I paint the filters with engine paint prior to installing them, and they look very original.
Ed Bell

Ah, have I got a treat for you! No less than 10 cross references to various manufacturers part numebrs for that application. See here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/of100b.htm

On the same page is a note and a link to a Faulty Parts report explaining why some filters will jam on that particular spin on adapter. See here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/faulty/ft026.htm

By personal experience I know the NAPA Gold 1516 filter will jam. The NAPA filter is made by Wix, so I suppose the Wix 51516 will be similar and would also jam. The Fram 3600 does not jam, but I wouldn't use a Fram filter anyway ($.01). So far I don't know the answer for the rest, but if anyone does, do tell.

Moss does know about this problem, but they seem to ignore it and keep on selling the same odd fitting adapter with no such note attached. Although to their small credit, the filters they do sell for it do work without jamming.
Barney Gaylord

Barney:
When referring to the Wix 51516 or NAPA 1516 filters, what do you mean by "jamming"? I have been using these filters for a few years with no apparent problems. I started with the Fram 3600 and, like you, heard that it was not the best to use, so I switched over to the Wix/NAPA ones.
Bob
Bob Ravich

Thanks to all for the info.
Barney:
With the above help I was able to cross to 4 more part #'s They are Mann W719/36, K&N HP-2009, Bosch 72-143 and Full PH-400. My supplier only had the Mann and the K&N in stock I have both here and both fit. Both look to be good quality with anti drain-back valves. The K&N filter also has a provision to safty wire it. Though this adapter holds the filter seal side up I prefer to use one with an anti drain-back valve in any application. The upside down version show on your site would require it and with one looks to make the job much easier, Who's is it? is it still available?
R J Brown

I will add a few more filters for your info. Lee LF 42, Motorcraft FL 276, Purolator L 20064, STP SO 400, and Sears 45197. kBy the way, this filter also fits a 2000 Ford F 150 with a V 6 engine.
cliff hughes

Bob,

The jamming problem may depend on how many years you have had your adapter. Perhaps earlier ones were okay, and the problem is only with more recent issue parts. See here: tp://mgaguru.com/mgtech/faulty/ft026.htm

I have two bad ones in my posession. I have reports from people receiving bad ones very recently, since Moss has already been aware of the problem. So Moss is knowingly still shipping the same bad parts.

There are a couple of simple machining solutions to fix the bad parts, but Moss has apparently chosen to sell off inventory as is without the fix. I have no idea haw many of these bad parts are already in the field (but it's far too many), or how many more they will continue to dump on us. I suppose we can only hope they get it right with the next batch of parts.

Meanwhile, check the dimensions of your adapter. If it is shallow on the bottom end, be careful to check the filters you buy.
Barney Gaylord

Barney:
Thanks for the additional information. I installed my adapter about 6 years ago, so I expect that I got one of the "good ones".
Bob
Bob Ravich

I dunno. I've had mine a lot longer than that. A new one bought a couple of years ago was the same. Got a few reports of new ones in the past few months still being the same.
Barney Gaylord

Well,

I am now in search of a filter locally that will fit my application. Yes, filters jam on my adapter and with some, the gasket will not compress enough to make a good seal which means leaks.

Sure, I can order these from the States, but shipping alone can sometimes kill the savings I might have. I can source good OEM and aftermarket filters here that (at least seem to be) well made for about $5.50 each. Oil by the way is anywhere from $5.00 to, and I am not making this up, $30 a quart.

What I have found is that most Toyotas and Nissans have the same thread (3/4"-16) as the PH3600. All I have to do is find an o-ring seal of approx. 63mm id/75mm od. The late Toyota filters are very short, while the Nissan ones seem to be about the right length and have a slightly bigger case od. Hey, more is better right?

I am now up against the same problem of finding one deep enough so that it doesn't jam. If I followed Barney's information correctly, if I can find a filter with a 7-8mm depth with an uncompressed o-ring, I should be just fine.

Is there anyone out there possibly using a Nissan or Toyota filter?

Tom Baker

Tom, not sure if this'll help you or not. My '56 roadster has a spin-on filter. I assume it's a Moss part, but I'm not 100% sure as it was installed by someone else. The filter on it was a Bosch 72161, which apparently is used on some Lexus models (GS300, LS400, SC400).
Andy Bounsall

The latest MGA! magazine mentions a problem with leakage and postulates that the Moss head was perhaps designed using the Fram filter which may have slightly different dimensions than equivalents. Might be worth trying that brand and see if it seals better before taking the head off to have it machined down a bit.
Bill Spohn

Tom the filter crosses to a Mazda #ZZM1-23-802A it fits the B-3000 truck that is Ford based It may help if available in Japan.
Good luck Randy
R J Brown

This thread was discussed between 19/01/2006 and 24/01/2006

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