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MG MGB GT V8 Factory Originals Technical - Tell me what you think of this.

first off, this isn't my car but a picture i found on the internet. i wouldn't chip up an example as nice as the car in this original picture. second, this is only photoshop work. so no car has been bastardized. but i wanted to get some opinions on some ideas i had for body modifications on an mgb.

http://homepage.mac.com/jeffnee/.Pictures/mgb_concept.jpg
jeff

Jeff - practical in your climate and looks good - have seen something pretty similar over here - a long time ago Roger
Roger

Jeff,
A guy calling himself the autoist (or something like that) was going to do somthing like this, very Aston Martin. Haven't hear from him in a while, pity, he has a neat website.
Peter

Jeff,
Looks are purely a personal point however I would delete the front (and rear if any) overriders as they do not seem to line up with anything else in that part of the car and add a chrome trim strip to link the vent on the wing shoulder and the door handle and emphasise the length of the body.
This will allow the grille to make a more agressive visual statement and provide a foil for the wheels as well.

Cheers, Pete.
Peter Thomas

Yeah - front end looks odd somehow! May be better with the over-riders turned the other way up (upside down)!

Martin
Martin

thanks for the comments. here's an update based on some of what you've said. it does have an aston-ish feel to it. luckily astons are incredibly beautiful. i changed the fender vent to an oval to mirror the shape of the door handle inset.

http://homepage.mac.com/jeffnee/.Pictures/mgb_concept2.jpg
jeff

I don't know if I'd delete the overriders. There's a great tradition of British cars having slight fangs ... most recently with the Jag XK8. I'm no car designer, but it all looks out of whack to me with the huge uninterrupted chrome strip ... also, can you try making the lower grille a little less deep vertically?
Ted

Seems like I remember a prototype made by Aston Martin that looked very similar to this. Seems like it was to be a revived A-M MGB, early 80's maybe. Anyone else remember anything like this or did I dream this?
gerry masterman

It looks like a 1970/71 Camaro.
Perhaps the front bumper should not cross the front grill, just the bumper tips as the 70 Camaro. Also reduce the opening a bit so that it would be more to scale.
Just my inputs.
Bill Guzman

No Gerry you didn't dream it - As I remember it AM were thinking of buying the company at some time.
Got some pics of the proposed car lying around somewhere. Trouble is I'll probably go mad now looking for the damn things!"!"
Martin

Jeff,
It needs the overriders, but the size of the grill makes it look too heavy in the front, in my opinion. By the way, the Aston Martin restyled MGB was featured in Practical Classics several years ago, seems like about 98 or 99.
Joe Ullman

I like it with over-riders. Though maybe just change the placement of them to balance it out somehow..?

Well done! I like that look.
Larry Embrey

Jeff,
Could you take out the bumper and smooth in the front end on that image??

Something like this but with that big gaping mouth on it heh

http://www.embreyfamily.com/mgb/PhotoAlbum/VariousV8s/AdrianAkhurstscustomer.htm
Larry Embrey

sure. i can do it when i get home. i don't have the image here at work. i'll try the split bumper too. i'll probably just end up doing a fairly stock look with a new front fascia and removing the side strip (+vent hole). but i'd like to get a ford302 into it like your car larry.
jeff

Jeff....I'm back!! (theAutoist)...actually, I never went anywhere...have just been real busy in the garage getting my '79 Vermillion Red car that I bought new back on the road...completely original!

....&, have been working on body of the '79 Pageant Blue V8 car...thanks for your comments...I've smoothed the ridge out of my driver rear quarter & am working on making a Sebring rear valance out of metal (old midget's butt) which, I must say, is a chore...& flaring the rear fender wells just a tad for my 205 tires....I'll try to get some photos up on my site...other thing I'm working on is the vents through my front fiberglass fenders...like the one in the photo above but couldn't find it so am going with '49 Buick port holes hooked up to hoses venting hot air from top rear corners of hood....
anthony barnhill

here's a couple more. these are intersting. thanks for the ideas. this one is with th split front bumper that just points over the grille like an old camaro or c1 corvette.

http://homepage.mac.com/jeffnee/.Pictures/mgb_concept3.jpg

here's the one with stripped of the bumper completely that larry was talking about.

http://homepage.mac.com/jeffnee/.Pictures/mgb_concept4.jpg
jeff

boy, i'm really diggin the concept3 with the split bumpers. cool look.
jeff

Jeff,
MAN YOUR GOOD!! But as I feared, the front end looks to tall and square without the bumper using that air dam and grill layout. I think the best would be to move the over-riders on the 1st picture in so they are at the mid point between the MG emblem on the grill and the outside edges of the grill. That make sense?? They both need to move INWARD a bit. On the 1st picture there is a reflected triangle on the bumper coming from the base of the passenger over rider.. move the overider so that it is at the inner point of the triangle or there-abouts and then move the driver's side in to match.. hope that makes sense, I have NO photoshop skills or I would try myself... Failing that, the split bumper does look best..


Larry Embrey

Could you possibly try bringing the bottom of the grill out a bit and bringing the two vertical edges in over the lower half of the gril? Dont know if that makes sense, but it might look alright. I'd be interested to see it if you could. The split bumpers do look awesome though.

I'll try to draw it

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/______/

Alan.
Alan Raddatz

that didnt work at all.
Alan Raddatz

Well here is my FEEEBLE attempt...

http://www.embreyfamily.com/images/mgb_concept5.jpg

I think I moved them TOO far in...

Larry Embrey

that looks great larry. gives a good sense of the differences between the positions. alan, i'm not quite sure i'm clear on what you mean. do you mean to make it trapezoidal so it's wider on top than the bottom?
jeff

How would it look with a crossover bar like the earl B's?Something to bring the visual center line up.
Garret
garret

how do you mean garrett? do you have a picture of what you have in mind?
jeff

Now, try powdercoating the windshield frame black...&, the wide area on each fender under the headlight needs something as its too big...&, blank...

...make the bottom half of the grille smaller than the top by angling it inward sorta like an alfa romeo center grille emblem
anthony barnhill

Guys, what if you altered the grille proportions so as to make it less vertical, and did split bumpers with a connector bar, like so:

http://home.earthlink.net/~davidd_dt/mgb_conceptdjd.JPG
David

Jeff
The crossover was used on the mid 60's B. It was kind of a grill protector.
Garret
garret

Dave,
I see some "shaping" added on the bottom part of the grill but that's it?

What I am seeing in your picture though makes me wonder what it would look like to leave the MGb rounded nose (AKA stock valance shape) and use a big grill like in these concepts?? For the no bumper look I think that would be the ticket.

Let me try and flex my meager skills again, probably just end up with migrane, but it all for the good of the marquee...
Larry Embrey

Nice work, everyone. Gives one a lot to think about. Now, what about the rear having a split bumper to carry the theme further. Sort of like the '70 B or would you match the front with a much wider split? Would you move the plate mounting down to the area between the bumpers? Then, you might want to clean up the area above the bumpers a little.
Bob Fish

Bob...My V8 car will have no rear bumper...right now, I'm forming a Sebring-type valance out of the rear of a Midget...the license plate will be below the bumper fold line in a recess between the 2 halves of the Midget butt....gonna try & get photos on my website later in week of the first fitting of half the Midget butt.....
anthony barnhill

This thread was discussed between 20/01/2003 and 22/01/2003

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