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MG TD TF 1500 - Another mess on eBay

I do not think that I would ever like to have a McCulloch supercharger in MY car!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31858&item=4537353653&rd=1
John Redman

Gee, you get an automatic transmission and a Stromberg carb... and look at the engine cooling method....???
Watch it go to $10,000 ????
gordon lawson TD 27667

Crush it.
Colin Stafford

Actually, the tranny was a mistake in the listing - he pointed that out - and the stromberg goes with that McCulloch supercharger which protrudes out the left side through that huge hole. It also seems to be involved with the exhaust manifold in some way (?????). I am surprised by the ferocious bidding on "it". There are a lot of parts to sell on this but an unimaginable project to turn "it" into a car again.

John
John Redman

I'm taken aback by the hutzpah of a reserve price, musch less one that's more than $200.00
Richard

Im glad he cleared up the question about the automatic trans , the rest of it should just need a little paint here and there and maybe another fire .Then call the insurance co. OPPs did I say that out loud??? sorry

PS I wonder if it's original
A.L. Gerstle

I will bet anybody here a wee nip of Sheep Dip that this is 'NOT' a TD Tonneau cover and 'as stated' NOT an original.
Waddya think Mates?
Greg & Grimm





http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10076&item=4536662606&rd=1
G.J. Cenzer

Hmmmm... might let a bit of weather in through the doors eh?
gordon lawson - TD 27667

WOW! Keep in mind the car comes with the "Original Hand Crank"
Please don't bid on this or try and compete with me. This one's mine!! <g>
V.W. PiŮa

Are we not seeing some thing here , has the rust formed an image of the Virgin Mary or some thing . The bidding is over $1300 and the reserve is not met yet.
A.L. Gerstle

This vehicle is right hand drive and has a reccessed rubber footwell on the left (passenger) side and a flush rubber foot pad on the right (driver's) side. Would this be a normal thing? I shouldn't think so but the description is almost Biblical like.
Greg & Grimm



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31858&item=4536633300&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
G.J. Cenzer

Greg,

The guy admits Naylor Brothers converted from LHD to RHD. This fits with the recessed floor. Has the car travelled across the ocean twice ?


Jan T
Jan Targosz

Jan,
Sorry I missed the bit about converting from LtoR. The guy's decription is too much like as if he was screaming real loud so I skipped most of the words. He did send me a bunch of pics and I would say the interior is not in very good shape. Cracked seat leather, no door check straps, bare brass hinges, lots of little niggles for my opinion.
Greg & Grimm
G.J. Cenzer

To Mr Gerstle's comment, "Praise the Lord, I saw the light (through the huge hole in the bonnet)". Yeah, but except for der_kunstschmied (141), and daimler_sp250c (41), the rest have very low numbers (like (0) for the current high bidder). That last auction that brought over $20K from mostly newbies was very suspicious. There is another beauty (really) that got an innitial $17K bid from a (0) bidder. We have some things to learn from this but I'm not sure what.

John
John Redman

What was the ad posted in the NY Times once.

For sale: Sunken Japanese midget sub, used once, never opened. Buyer pays FOB Hawaii.
Richard

Hey, I hope somebody buys that TD. It sure helps pay my mortgage! LOL

At first glance, the tonneau looks to me to possible fit a BJ7 or BJ8 Healey. Hard to tell.
Craig Cody

To John Redman ? Maybe I'm being dense but I have no idea what your thread comment is about,sorry.
A.L. Gerstle

John Redman ,,,I see said the blind man ..I checked der_kunstshmide . It looks like he buys German beersteins and other non MG items , why would he be sticking his neck out to bid on this charmer??
Your right -somthing is rotten in Denmark-
A.L. Gerstle

The seller withdrew the tonneau... i sent him a note and photo of a TD real one... Seems it was found after his wife with a TD died and he assumed... they were very nice about it. I thought with those little cutouts it was for an MGA, but i'm not sure.
gordon lawson - TD 27667

This does not look like my MGTD exhaust manifold!
Greg & Grimm



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33632&item=7963594891&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
G.J. Cenzer

They must have edited the description on the manifold, because it now says it's for an MGA. I'm not familiar enough with MGAs to say whether the change is an improvement.
Mark B.

The exhaust manifold has had another outlet welded onto it , maybe to run dual pipes . Looking at the rest of the photos I think this is a case for
C.S.I. Miami to investigate.
A.L. Gerstle

I wonder if McCulluch made a turbo charger and that is the take off? There seems to be some weird fan thingie down the page....
Those are some scary pics.....
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Ahhhh... the magic of the internet......

http://www.vs57.com/index30s.htm

Bet the hot rodders will buy the supercharger for $2000.00 and throw away the car.....
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Well, well, well... further down the above page:

http://www.vs57.com/history_files/mg.jpg
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Well, well ,well indeed. Mystery solved. Thank you Gordon. Still don't know about the extra manifold take-off except for 'duels'. Maybe that 'fuel vaporization' that was talked about (though nowadays they want to go the OTHER way with that). Now if someone buys this they have ANOTHER project - looking up that babe. I would think that this car and the picture are one and the same. What a shame it wasn't kept up.
So, with the carb where it is, then this would be an early 'blown through', right?

John
John Redman

On the TD that was converted from LHD to RHD why would ANYBODY spend the money to take the car across the pond (twice) convert it and NOT replace the pass floor board removing the well!
Greg & Grimm
G.J. Cenzer

I started a thread on the Supercharger section, pointing those guys to THIS thread. I guess that I will also pass it along to the seller. That should make HIS day. I am also wondering who the driver is in that photo. He looks familiar.

John
John Redman

Iíve followed this thread from the start and am amazed at some of the comments, such as crush it. This TD could actually be restored if some one wanted to spend the time. Also there are a lot of sellable/useable parts here just roughly in my head about ten thousand dollars worth. Again, if some one wanted to take the time to part it out. I think you need to look at it as a lemon and make some lemonade. I personally would like to purchase the clock, working or not. Iíve seen them go as high as $500.00 I know that a fellow poster is looking to buy the metal clip that holds the wiring harness to the scuddle. He ordered it from Abingdon spares. Iím curious with shipping and cost of the part what he paid A/S. Anyway Happy Easter to all. Hopefully the weather will turn warm and sunny then all of us will be able to go drive our cars and spend less time watching cars on E-bay. John
John C. Hambleton III

I sent the McCulloch supercharger site guy a note directing him to the ebay site...
gordon lawson - TD 27667

John.... Bill Cantrell
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Gordon, is that HER name ( :) )?
Good heavens. Such a provenence we are building for the eventual owner of this car.

When I said that there are lessons to be learned from this, I guess that we are seeing that there is more than meets the eye on ANY eBay auction. Possibly those early frenzy bidders have better eyes than I do. I truely hope that this DOES get "restored to its former elegance" as the seller put it, but more to the point, to vintage racing where it really belongs (IMHO).

John (awed observer of the human spectical)
John Redman

Here is stuff on Billy.
http://madisoncamerunning.com/Holly/cantrell.html

John
John Redman

John,
Here's another winner!! Description and spelling are really entertaining! Why do these "missfits" get involved with MG's why don't they go find some chevy/fords and stay out of MG Land. Very entertaining and good for a laugh.
Greg & Grimm


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31858&item=4538624406&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
G.J. Cenzer

Perfect garage find however... will be interested in what it brings as that is pretty close to the shape mine was in last year.
gordon lawson - TD 27667


Greg, I think that with a reserve of $6,500, he is getting out of our sandbox with not enough. The car looks to be quite nice, very nearly complete. What we have to be concerned about is the winner. I hope that he or she 'discovers' THIS particular resource (I'm thankful that I did). I feel graet kinship with all of you and the information is not to be found in a book, I'm sure. I am still concerned about all the people selling the pristine cars. Are any of them frequenters of this BBS. I know one of "our" guys is/was selling a TD in the classifieds and there are obviously good reasons to leave the hobby for some. I wonder, though, if I left, if I would still look back 'in' for all the laughs and fellowship.

Pardon all the sentiment.

John
John Redman

Your right John... its amazing the knowlege and helpfullness of this group... i've been on almost a year now, and there have been no flames... just lots of info and friendship... Also can't imagine not having the TD to spend time "under" and time "in". Its been a long winter...maybe i'm just having withdrawl... anyway... thanks everyone for all your help... Hope we all have a great summer.
gordon lawson - TD 27667

By the way. I probably should not do this but I have decided to put emotional pressure on the seller of this car to keep/restore it, join this BBS and participate in what we experience. The looks of the bidders is what was suggested early on in this thread - Hot-Rodders (who would discard this great car). Helping this suggestion is the fact that the reserve has not been met with 2 hours left.

John
John Redman

Looks like he had a low reserve... $2500.00 and it has a new owner.....
gordon lawson - TD 27667

Yep, and I am feeling more disappointment that I should. Que sera sera.

John
John Redman

You can send the winner a quick note about the forum and this thread. Someone buying a T should have more enthusiasm then someone selling one?
gordon lawson - TD 27667

I'll give it a shot (?), but with (0) in his history, I just see it as someone who wanted the antique supercharger.

John
John Redman

WOW here's a rare one 1959 MGTD!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4539744582&fromMakeTrack=true
GReg & Grimm
G.J. Cenzer

Oh, gawan, he MEANT 1950. Quite a nice specimen. Quite a LOT of very nice T-Types appearing now. I do not understand most of it. The BRG one from New Jersey was selling his dead Brother-in-Law's but the others mystify me.

John
John Redman

Quite a few T Types from Canada EH!
Greg & Grimm
G.J. Cenzer

Is that the correct position for the body number plaque? Mine is on the inside of the tool box lid on the driver's side
gordon lawson

This is the position of all plaques that I have on my '52.

John
John Redman

Hi Gordon. The plaque on my 53 is also on the tool box lid. I am starting to suspect that my lid was originally on a TF, unless they had some parts "in the bin" from the soon to be TF when mine rolled off the line. Tim
Tim Mayor

Wonder if it was just a '53 change... any others with the body number on the tool box lid (inside)?
gordon lawson

My 53 has it inside the tool box lid. The change must have occured in 52-53. Also, there isn't a "Made in England" plate on the tool box side or any 53 I have seen.

Any 52's have the plate in the box?


Evan Ford - TD 27621

Nope,
Mine has the body number plate like the TD in the ebay advert.
Cheers, Nick: TD19009, August 1952.
D.G.J. Herwegh

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4540563211&category=31858&sspagename=WDVW
The front bumper on this vehicle appears to me to have too much plan view curvature to it, and the shape of the ends does not match the other cars listed.
Greg & Grimm
G.J. Cenzer

Always clean the fingerprints off your camera lens:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31858&item=4540387921&rd=1
gordon lawson

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4539744582#description


If you click on "ask the seller", the numbers are all there... and by the chassis and body numbers it should be a 1952.... in fact it is only 5 numbers away from Vinnie's '52 (both chassis and body are 5 numbers apart)
gordon lawson

This thread was discussed between 22/03/2005 and 03/04/2005

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