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MG TD TF 1500 - oil pump clearance

Will someone please let me know the clearance from the top of the oil pump to the underside of the steering column and any estimates on what the minimun should be. I think everyone knows that I went with the Moss 5-speed and am trying to make it work. For the purests, please forgive me. Thanks for any help.

tim
tim

Tim - "clearance from the top of the oil pump to the underside of the steering column and any estimates on what the minimun should be" The answer is, presious little, and as long as a grove is not worn in to the steering column, you have enough (mine has taken the paint off of the steering column, but not worn a grove). Cheers - Dave
David DuBois

Tim,

If you aren't already aware, removing/fixing the oil pump on a TD/TF, means pulling back on the steering column and raising the engine.

What a lousy design!

One would think that between the introduction of the TD in 1949, to its demise with the 1500 in 1955, that something would have been done to alleviate this major pain-in-the-ass; almost as bad as changing the clutch/brake shaft and woodruff key!

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.

Gordon A. Clark



Gordon;
The cold weather is actually getting to your memory. They eventualy moved the oil pump inboard and hid it in the oil pan on some and on midgets they hid it on the back end of the camshaft. I think the XPAG-EG was the way to go.Lets all go back to the constant loss system and not worry about salt on the trails.
FYI.We expect freezing here tonight. A little better than your weather. Did you ever buy that new stove?
Sandy
Sandy Sanders

Gord,

Uh, correct me if I'm wrong but the TD was a British car, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure the oil pump location/design worked well for them when the steering shaft was on the other side of the engine bay.

Gene

Gene Gillam

Gene beat me to it, but I was going to say that I had no problem with oil pump to steering column clearance on my RHD TF. It's still damn hard to get to it, but that's the fault of the cowl design.
Mark B.

Thanks for your input as I am still trying to sort this out, but your words are incouraging. I talked to Moss tech support today and they are unable to give me a minimum clearance, and suggested that I put everything back together, put blocks under the wheels, put it in first as if I was driving and see if I had clearance. Now that seems like a lot of work to play "what if". Does anyone have the clearance as it is without the conversion ie the original gearbox. I wish that I had paid more attentionm to mine prior to taking it out in November. Thanks for your help and support. Seems like I am playing with a fraction of an inch but I am jsut not sure.

tim

tim

Dave
please forgive me, how I did not see your reply is beyond me, you are always a great source of info and hope all is well.

tim
tim

Tim - In spite of my flipant answer, I don't believe that there is any minimum given anywhere. I believe that the clearance is small on mine because I may have a front motor mount that is on the thin side and probably needs to be shimmed a sixteenth of an inch or so. Cheers - Dave
David DuBois

Tim, I just checked that on 'the53' as I'm about to begin pulling the engine. I took my drill index and begin slipping drills in until I found the largest one that go in. It was 7/32 in. (about 5.5 mm). BTW, the closest area is not directly above the center of the steering column, it's a bit inboard of that.
Bud Krueger

A picture of my clearence:

http://travelaire.photosite.com/MGTDRebuild/steering/clearance_between_steering_and_oil_pump.html
Dave Braun

Here's what I saw: http://www.ttalk.info/53images/PumptoColumn.jpg
Bud Krueger

This thread was discussed between 16/02/2007 and 23/02/2007

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