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MG TD TF 1500 - Shelby TC
| Just for info, the Carroll Shelby '49 MG TC sold at Barrett-Jackson in Las Vegas yesterday for $285,000. Speed Channel carried all 3 days live. Unfortuantely, for me at least, I can only watch so many '60's and '70's American muscle cars sell for rediculous prices before I become ill :-) |
| L Karpman |
| God - if all the T cars were bringing that kind of $$$ - we would all be set. |
| jeff |
| I set the DVR to record, then fast forward through 98% of it. I only stop for cars that interest me. |
| Steve Simmons |
| >jeff, GA God - if all the T cars were bringing that kind of $$$ - we would all be set.< Jeff: We would only be set if we sold our cars . . . then the "we" would become "them"! . . . :-) Godspeed in Safety Fast Jc |
| John Crawley |
| Precisely. If my TC was suddenly worth $285K, I still wouldn't sell it. I can't imagine never having one again. |
| Steve Simmons |
| "Precisely. If my TC was suddenly worth $285K, I still wouldn't sell it" "yeah - right" ! Dallas |
| D C Congleton |
| It sure would make paying the Moss/Abingdon Spares bills a little easier - knowing that kind of sum was out there somewhere! I guess we don't have to worry about that though. I believe T Series prices will actually decline as the cars change hands over the next 10 years. My thinking is that most antique enthusiasts are drawn to other models. I will be happy with my TF, MGA, and MGB. Hope to one day have a TC! Jeff |
| Jeff |
| Well Jeff, according to your theory, you only have to wait 10 years for a TC! warmly, dave |
| Dave Braun |
| The TC was nice enough, but most of the members cars are much nicer. We just need Shellby's name on the door panel. Quite an event. I'd recomend a trip to one just for the sites. One thing though, find a person who's selling or buying and have them get you a visitor pass. We got to walk around hundreds of people standing in line. It was great. We also got to go on the bidders floor which you can't do with a ticket. Can't get on stage unless you have an actual bidders pass. For those of you that recorded Thursday's sale. I'm the joker with the camera shooting pictures of the Daytona Recreation # 188 while it was on the block. I won the pool we had for what it would bring. I guessed $ 42,000 and she sold for $ 41,000. I was going to bid on the Sprite but it went for $ 18,000 and it wasn't that great. Out of my league. Some real bargins happen in the mornings. Some nice Mercedes and Rolls sold cheap. I think the steal of the auction was the 61 Jag. LaVerne |
| LaVerne |
| We all know that the price had nothing to do with the fact it was a TC. Any car that Shelby raced, especially if it was his first race, would bring those numbers or more. I sure wouldn't be valuating my T-Series based on that sales price :-) Cheers Larry |
| L Karpman |
| Dallas One thing Steve forgot to mention. His wife is a multi millionaire or he thinks so. Bill |
| Bill |
| Well... my TD is an...ummm... an......ahhh...... a Sterling Moss TD.... yeah, thats right... an original Sterling Moss!!! Why, i'm told that he actually raced it...well...was on a race track where it was raced...well... was on a race track where TD's were raced..yeah, thats it, thats the ticket.... So... my TD is up for a mere $100,000!!!! Yeah... thats it ...100K takes it!!!! |
| gblawson(gordon) |
| Hey Dave - I hope you are right! |
| jeff |
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| LED DOWNEY |
| "yeah - right" - Dallas "One thing Steve forgot to mention. His wife is a multi millionaire or he thinks so." - Bill With all due respect, did you guys buy a TD because it was cheaper than what you really wanted, or because you actually wanted a TD? I bought my TC because I dreamed of owning one ever since the first time I saw one. If I were rich, I'd add an Alfa 8C to my 300 car garage next to my personal test track. Unfortunately I'm not rich so that isn't likely to happen, but even if I had all the money in the world I'd still own a TC. If all TCs were worth $200K+, there is still no way I'd sell it. I don't care so much about money as I do enjoying quality of life. Forget stress and spending all your time trying to get rich. If I can pay the bills, drive my M.G.s and keep my wife as happy as I want to be, then I consider myself as rich as a man can get. Give up something I've always dreamed about so I can have more money for a while? No thanks! I'd regret it for the rest of my life. Besides. $200K doesn't go all that far anymore! |
| Steve Simmons |
| Didn't mean to bruise your sensibilities Steve- if the TC is a family inheritance or something, you might attach that much value? At the end of the day our little cars were just inexpensive and crudely built little machines. They are still fairly plentiful. With $285K you could replace the TC with a very nice one for $35K, and still have a quarter million left- which still goes pretty far in my part of the country. The only problem is $285K will put you in Obama's 70% tax bracket ;^) Dallas |
| D C Congleton |
| I'm sure the buyer won't enjoy the car as much as Steve does. Why pay so much, it is even missing panels ;-). Dallas, if all TC's where 285K, you wouldn't be able to buy an nice one for 35K? Jeff, I think (and hope) you are right about falling prices and would like to have the lowpoint in a year or seven, please. By then the children will drive their own (or my) MG's and the TC will surely join the stable with the YA and MGB. BTW, here in Holland there's a TA for sale with a blown TD2 XPAG, red with red bucket seats. I wish I had a spare 30.000 euro's somewhere; it would be mine tomorrow! |
| Willem van der Veer |
| Dallas, I think you misunderstood my point! What I'm saying is that if ALL our T-cars were suddenly worth that much then I wouldn't sell mine, because once the money was gone, I couldn't buy another one! If ONLY my personal TC was worth that kind of money so that I could buy an even better one for $40K then yes, I would probably sell it. Not definitely, but probably. My wife and I have a lot of good memories with this car which are worth more to me than money. Since no one is going to offer me $285K, I guess we'll never find out. Of course if anyone wants to make that offer, I'm all ears! People sometimes don't believe me when I say my cars aren't for sale at any price. They usually respond with "OK, how about ten million dollars?" I then ask them to show me the money. My message to them is that my cars aren't for sale at any price that someone would actually offer. No one would ever offer ten million dollars for any M.G, so I stand firm in my statement! :) |
| Steve Simmons |
| Steve, I know where you are coming from on 'not for sale at any price.' The TD will be the last piece of hardware I will part with when I'm moved to a nursing home. Oh, I'll still let the boys drive it, but I can't imagine life without it. I've had it that long... not as long as Gord Clark (our original TF owner!) by any means, but long enough to know it is mine until I'm gone. warmly, dave |
| Dave Braun |
| Actually, at $2,000 dollars in 1953, they were anything but cheap... you could get a good little Ford 4 door for the $1200.00 range? The biggest problem was that you were paying the same for a 'little' sports car, that you could get a 'big' American car for...difficult to get past the 'wife'!!! Buick Century $3,706 1957 Buick Invicta $3,515 1959 Buick Roadmaster $3,373 1954 Buick Super $2,139 1950 Cadillac Coupe De Ville $4,163 1952 Cadillac Elderado $4,146 1956 Chevrolet Corvette $3631 1958 Chevrolet Delray Coupe $1,884 1954 Chevrolet Impala $2,693 1958 Chevrolet Imperial $4,225 1953 Chrysler New Yorker $4,347 1958 Chrysler Saratoga $3,995 1958 De Sota Fireflite $3,119 1956 De Sota Powermaster Six Club Coupe $2334 1953 De Sota S15 Custom 6 $2,793 1952 Dodge Coronet V8 $2,494 1953 Dodge Lancer $2,807 1956 Dodge Royal V8 $2,915 1958 Edsel Corsiar ( Ford ) $3,346 1958 Ford Custom Club Sedan $1895 Wisconsin 1955 Ford Country Sedan Station Wagon $2,060 1952 Ford Country Sedan Station Wagon $2,947 1959 Ford Fairlane 500 $2,428 1958 Ford Mainline $1548 1954 Ford Thunderbird $2,944 1955 Hillman Minx $1890 Illinois 1952 Hudson Hornet 6 $2,568 1951 Hudson Hornet V8 $2,821 1957 Hudson Jet $1,885 1954 Hudson Super Wasp $2,413 1953 Jaguar XK120 $4,039 1951 Jaguar XK140 $3,940 1955 Lincoln Capri $4,803 1958 Lincoln Continental Mark 4 $7,056 1959 Lincoln Cosmopolitan $3,226 1953 Mercury Montclair $2,465 1955 Mercury Monterey $1,947 1950 Mercury Monterey $3,578 1957 Metropolitan $1445 1954 mg td $1,945 1953 MG MGA $2.269 1957 Nash Ambassador $2,586 1957 Nash Airflyte $1,955 1951 Nash Statesman $2,345 Wisconsin 1955 Nash Metropolitan $1,673 1954 Oldsmobile, "88" holiday sedan $2,929 New Jersey 1956 Oldsmobile, Super 88 $2,958 1958 Packard Clipper $2,624 Texas 1955 Plymouth Belvedere $1,618 1954 Plymouth Suburban $2296 Ohio 1957 Pontiac Bonneville $3,586 1958 Pontiac Chiefton $2,058 1950 Pontiac Star Chief $2,394 1954 Rambler Country Club $1550 Illinois 1954 Rambler DeLuxe 6 $1,775 1958 Rambler Ambassador $2,587 1959 Studebaker Champion Bullet Nose $1,419 1950 Studebaker Commander Coupe $2,095 1955 Studebaker Hawk $2,630 1959 Studebaker Scotsman $1795 Ohio 1955 Studebaker Starlight President $2695 1958 Sunbeam Alpine Sports Roadster $2,899 1953 Triumph TR3 $2,595 1956 |
| gblawson(gordon) |
| Gordon, the US list price $1945 for the MGTD included a bunch of import fees and taxes. I didn't mean to "dis" any one's pride and joy- I have owned my TD since 1967 as the second owner and spent more than it's worth restoring it. I have also owned numerous other collector type cars during that period, both British and American. I tend to be realistic and comparative about things mechanical. I still would sell the TD or my Healey 3000 for $285K in a heartbeat. Dallas ;^) |
| D C Congleton |
| I remember a family discussion back in the '50s and the 4 door sedan won out as it was the same price (....mom: 'well, we just can't afford to have two cars, and the kids just won't fit in that one....) Our British Car ownership didn't happen till my brother bought his first used MGA for $1200 |
| gblawson(gordon) |
| Jot to tell you that I have been tempted on more thana few occasions to put the TD up for sale. Money it would bring would be a nice addition to my bank account. But every time I start thinking that way, a nice day comes up, or a nice stretch of road, ant the feel of driving the TD drives the thought from my head. The TD was not my first british car, but it was the first one I totally restored myself. it assisted me through a divorce but taking my mind off her and onto it. I must admit, I drive my MGB a lot more. TD is fun and great, but still lacks some of the creature comforts of the B. This year, the TD got more use than it has in a lot of years. New engine has broken in well and the car is running great. I have to agree with Gordon, I am hoping I get taken to my nursing home in it. |
| Bruce-C |
| Hi all. re nursing home: instead of being sent to a nursing home I can be moved out in the garage and sit there and look at my TD dreaming of winding roads and so. happy td motoring. Thats better than looking at other senile olds. |
| t g sorensen |
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