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MG TD TF 1500 - SU Air cleaner replacement
|Hello folks - I have twin SU carbs in my 51 TD which need new air cleaner elements (they're disintegrating). What do I replace them with? I've done a lot of searching and I don't see anything that says exactly what I need. I even saw (here) to use scotch brite scrubby pads!|
Can I use paper filters? K&N types?
What do I need and where do I get them?
|Please post a picture of the air cleaners that you have. Original equipment on the TD was a single oil bath filter that sat above the valve cover.|
Your setup will be an aftermarket one and there are numerous possibilities.
|Here's a pic of my SUs
|Looks like you have S&H air filters.|
These were a popular replacement on our cars.
IMHO: "Popular" yes, "Good choice" No!
I ran these on my TF for nearly 10 years. Read quite a bit from others on here about them being somewhat "restrictive" concerning air flow. In my case I had the correct Vokes air cleaners for the TF..however the elements were a mess. I eneded up buying a single K&N and cut it in half to fit the Vokes. Made an increadable differance in preformance.
There are several options out there depending on "how much" you want to spend, but from my experance, I would get rid of the S&H. Moss/LBC shows a set that use K&N filters. If orginality is not an issue, (the single oil bath correct filter for a TD can be quite costly) I would go with a set of those.
I reactavated the old thread on what I did on the TF and there is some "TD" info in there also.
Hint, Some us (me included LOL) don't spell real well!
Try searching "Volkes" as well as K&N !
|Ooops ...just noticed those K&N's say "MKII & TF".|
So...you need to see if you have 1 1/2" SU's on your car ...these may not fit 1 1/4"!
|I believe Moss has some K&N's for the 1 1/4" carbs. Not cheap, but the best option unless you want to find the pieces for the oil bath set up.|
|L E D LaVerne|
|Those look like the aftermarket air cleaners that Abingdon Spares sold some years back. If the element is foam, you may be able to adapt some kind of lawn mower filter material. Or call Abingdon. George|
|OBTW: S&H made at least 2 "models" of these. |
The ones on my TF had a single bolt in the center (like above picture)...the S&H on my TR are 2 bolts like what you have.
|The K&Ns I bought from Moss fit my 1-1/4 SUs.|
|J K Chapin|
|This last one from Mr chapin I thinks shows the complete unit from moss. Is there nothing I can put inside the cans I already have or is everyone saying get new cans too?|
|Not having that type of can, I do suggest that you measure the diameter and height of the filter element box and scout around with that information in hand. Those pancake type filters are pretty common and you should have no problem finding a pair.|
|At one time I had found a place on K&N site you could search by "size" ...not having any luck finding it now.|
Measure yours and try this.
|Don't forget to try "double the height".|
That is how I found some to fit the Vokes in the other thread I reactivated for you.
Not hard to cut in half ...and what I found was the price was the same for a 3" as it was for 1 1/2" ...so got mine for 1/2 price!
|What about using a cut-to-size scotch-brite pad? Certainly was better than what was in there to begin with.|
|L, if you want these, no foam (add your own from a lawn mower or a cat waterer, let me know. Yours for the price of shipping.|
|J K Chapin|
|I'd forget the Scotch Brite pad idea. Pieces of the material flake off all the time and as by design they are very abrasive. Even worse when if you cut them to fit. You're not likely to find a paper element that will fit the housing due to the height. In addition I suspect the original element material was metal, which kept out small stones but not much else. Replacing it with a better filtering material (such as foam ) is likely to choke the engine due to the relatively small surface area of the filter but if you want to stick with just replacing the element then that's the direction I believe I would go.|
|L E D LaVerne|
|Thanks Mr chapin, but I'd still be back where I am now. No filter element.|
|Is anyone running Moss part 223-010? Moss says these are KN. I'm wondering if they'll fit. The depth is 3/4 inch larger than what I have but they mount higher on the carb. They might miss the bonnet side panel.|
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