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MG TD TF 1500 - TD vs. MkII TD/C?

Please educate me about the TD/C models. I may be interested in one near me as a restoration project. Are they any more valuable than a standard TD? Harder to find parts for? It seems like there's not a whole lot changed for the C model that may not have been added by 60 years' worth of owners of a standard TD. Any reason I would choose one over another? Assume for a moment condition is unknown so at least equal.

Anyone have a ballpark figure how many Cs were made?

Thanks,
Darel
Darel Matthews

Darel,
If you go back to the Home page of this web site, you can find a history and explaination of TD, TD/c TD MKII's,,, this should be a good start to understanding the differences,,,,

Hope this helps,
SPW
STEVE WINCZE

We have a TD MKII expert on the board ...he will be along shortly I'm sure!
David Sheward

If and that is a very big IF, they have all the TDII parts, even if worn and reparable, then they are worth the effort of restoration (subject to my caveats in the earlier thread).

These are the larger carbs and duct including the oil bath and mickey mouse wing nut, four supplimentary Andrex Shock Absorbers. It helps a lot if the engine has original octagon plate and ties in with the registration plates. The last two key pieces which it is nice to have are the passenger grab handle under the dash and the three MarkII badges (if it is a later car).

There is some dispute over the numbers made, Tom Lange has a grip on this, but for now, say around 1,170 with most in the USA.

The listing on the Merson web site will help with identification. http://www.ttalk.info/Merson0211.htm

IanB
Ian Bowers

Phew - he said, puffing and panting. Sorry it took me so long.

So as not to cause the BBS to either groan or laugh too long, feel free to contact me off-line. I'll be happy to detail things for you.

In a nutshell, scarcer yes (1710 produced), more valuable, slightly - IF all there, matching numbers, etc., hard to find parts - generally not. I'd say worth going for a Mark II project if you can find one (I just happen to have one...)

LOL Tom Lange
MGT Repair
t lange

So is the oil bath and the air cleaner wing nut on a MkII C different from a standard TD oil bath?

What duct? Or do you mean the manifold that feeds the carbs? Is that different from a standard TD?

Seller states he's got all the shocks, 2 fuel pumps, carbs, no rot, recent wood replacement. I'll have to get the numbers off the carbs. More info to come. Thanks!
Darel Matthews

The carbs are 1.5in (the standard TD is 1.25in) and the maniflold (duct) relates to that size. As a result there is a bulge in the RHS (looking from the driver's seat) bonnet panel to accommodate the larger manifold.

Twin fuel pumps are correct for the MK II

IanB
Ian Bowers

I have a MKII but mostly in badge only. The original motor, carbs, air cleaner, and andrex shocks are long gone. but I do have badges, grab rail, and gearing left :)
L Rutt

Darel - it all depends on when your car was made, which air cleaner and air intake your car should have.

Tom Lange
t lange

OK, I found the breakdown of part changes by year and chassis number, that makes things easier.

Anyone know what the casting numbers of an orignal TDC head would be? I've found a wealth of information in the last couple hours but that seems to be one gap.

D
Darel Matthews

The heads are the same as the resgular TD, just skimmed to increase the CR and with bigger valves. A regular head can be easily modified by any machine shop to work just like a Mark II head.

Tom Lange
t lange

FYI, use http://www.ttalk.info/MersonList.htm to always see the latest TD list from George Merson. Bud
Bud Krueger

OK, thanks guys!
Darel Matthews

Darel - I do quite a bit of work on Mark II cars, and would appreciate knowing the ID number of this car - it should start with TD/C. thanks. Tom
t lange

OK, Tom. I'll put it up, hopefully with some details, as soon as I hear back from the seller. He sent me an email off a wanted ad I put on a website (not sure which site b/c I have a dozen floating around out there in the ether).

Thanks,
D
Darel Matthews

There is a page in the parts list that enumirates all the parts that were different.

The book is "AKD 834", the Section "R", and pages R2 and R3.

With the statment at the bottom of the pages that"Identical to standard "TD" except fot these items".

The book I have is labeled June 1958.
Cheers,
Bob
Bob Jeffers

Bob, can you tell me where to that book ?
Thanks in advance,

Gerard
Gerard Hengeveld

Gerard, I don't know of any source for new copies of AKD834. Especially, the later version with the MKII Section. You've got mail. Bud
Bud Krueger

http://www.britbooks.com/mgtdsepali.html

Pretty sure I got my copy of that from them, dated 1958. George
George Butz

Darel,

You asked " ... Are there any more valuable than a standard TD?"

If you have deep pockets, the Arnolt TD still fetches good prices - 67 in Coupé form, and particularly the convertible of which only 36 were built before MG stopped sending chassis to Bertone.

For pix, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnolt. The Wikipedia pix show the car with French Robergal wire wheels, but Borranis were more common, and even a few had the standard TD perforated disc wheel.

Expect to pay between $45,000 and $70,000.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

Gord - I think his question was whether a Mark II is more valuable han a standard TD.

A little more but not too much is my answer.

Tom Lange
MGT Repair
t lange

Tom,

I think you're right!

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Quá.
Gordon A Clark

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