MG-Cars.net

Welcome to our resource for MG Car Information.

Recommendations

Parts

MG parts spares and accessories are available for MG T Series (TA, MG TB, MG TC, MG TD, MG TF), Magnette, MGA, Twin cam, MGB, MGBGT, MGC, MGC GT, MG Midget, Sprite and other MG models from British car spares company LBCarCo.

MG TD TF 1500 - TF 1500 paint


Hello group, Does anyone know off hand or can point me in the right direction? I need the paint code for our 55, 'P' Ivory? I tried to find the number from a previous thread but just can not seem to find it. Also, any suggestions as to what is the BEST correct match for the newer paints and what would be best to use from the groups experience and knowledge ? many thanks in advance for you input.sara cold down south!
Sara D.

Sara,

Moss motors has a little blurb in their T-Series parts book,

Sequoia Cream/Ivory:
ICI- 4138 or 2700
Ditzler- 80203
Rinshed-Mason- BM127

These codes can sometimes be cross referenced to current codes. My car is being painted in Ivory, and around here the person doing it is considered to have an excellent rendition for it. I've left a phone message for him, and when he gets back to me, I'll post it.

warmly,
dave
Dave Braun

Sara,

You can look at the web site link below and they have chip samples you can look at for PPG-Ditzler. Under European, select Austin/MG, then select the year and on page 1 of all the samples, the Ivory is shown. They used to list the codes but have recently whited them out but it will give you an idea. I used a single stage PPG Concept paint and after looking at the samples, chose a slightly different "off-white" with more white in it as the ivory didn't look right to me. You can see my paint trials and tribulations on the second link. I can send you the PPG code I used when I get a chance to find the sticker in the garage tonight.

Dave

http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorlibrary/

http://community.webshots.com/user/saloonsam
D Runnings

Sara,

If your car is painted in the color you are repainting, or you know someone with that color, you can get it computer matched. I did that to get touch up paint for my car. It is perfect. That is what many body shops do, because paint varies and fades. There is usually someone in most areas that does this for the body shops. You can call around and find out who it is.

It didn't cost much. I think the cost was included in the paint. My experience is that paint you buy from a chip or code never is exactly what you hoped it would be.

regards,
Larry
larry ayres

Sara,

My car is getting a PPG color, but it isn't the same as the ivory you are talking about according to my paint guy. Sorry.

warmly,
dave
Dave Braun

Read Hal Kramer's article in the June 1996 TSO. It tells it all. "In fact,original colors can only be approximated since: color chips did not exist at that time;shades of a different color varied on a daily basis as new batches were mixed..." A recent thread on the dark green colors mentioned that some of the pigments needed to mix the available codes (dating back to the late 70's?) are not available due to removal of lead, so the color of them is not the same as it was. PPG 81271 "bamboo cream- 1961 GM" is the code for BMC Ivory in this article (from 1996). Dave, it lists "cream" as the 80203 BMC code- different colors. I have 4 different greens my paint guy is going to mix for me, and I'll just pick the one I like. George
George Butz

I had PPG Concep mixed to the 80203 no. and it came out very yellow. I mixed equal parts DMC white and it is a very nice cream color now. I like it, but I don't know if it is Ivory. Payes to have a very small sample made first.
DL Rezin

Did you try this Web site?

http://www.mgcars.org.uk/mgtf/mgtf_finishes.htm
Roy Challberg

I attempted this paint code/color translation last year with all the original formula numbers and formula "recipes", and found modern conversion to be nigh impossible. A friend who has been in the automotive paint business for 30 years, patiently dug out several evolutions of paint formula books, form the 60s, 70s, 80, up to the present to try and track the formula shifts through both Ditzler (now PPG) and DuPont, as one of these would be the type of paint we would now use. The results were not good, the cream we were after turned out to be a lime green, almost fluorescent. At the end of the day, the problem is that the modern paints are completely different in both base formulation and pigments. The modern paint also looks completely wrong with clear coat on a period car, IMHO.
We changed course and started looking for a color that matched the sample in the 80s catalogs and found a series of "creams", by Chrysler Corporation, and mixed samples until we found what I wanted. I used DuPont Nason single coat(grandchild of Imron). Single Coat is a misnomer in that is is a two part "epoxy" type paint. It just doesn't use a second clear coat.
The paint, after a mild buffing, has the look of lacquer, and is very durable.
In short, the best approach is to go to a paint dealer that deals with old cars restorers, and have them mix the color you perceive as the original.

Dallas

Dallas Congleton

Hi Sara,

I managed to find the sticker still attached to the paint can. As I mentioned, I selected an "off-white" that I liked and as Dallas mentioned the formulas don't necessarily convert to modern paints. In any case, the one I chose was the PPG Concept DCC 91045.

Dave
D Runnings


Gents - I just wanted to say thank you to all that replied with help! sara
sara d

This thread was discussed between 19/02/2007 and 27/02/2007

MG TD TF 1500 index

This thread is from the archive. The Live MG TD TF 1500 BBS is active now.