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MG TD TF 1500 - TF speedometer cable clip
| There is a "P" clip with a twist on the left of center on the firewall for the tachometer cable, was there also a "P" clip for the speedometer cable on the right? Did the speedometer cable have the same plastic sleeving? Also looking at the original pics of the TF there appears to be a protective gromet at the forward end of the tach cable "P" clip with the protective plastic steeving to the rear; would this be correct? The picture is hard to distinguish. Dan H. 54 TF |
| Dan Hanson |
| Dan, My TF has no P clip for the speedometer cable. The speedometer cable has a plastic cover but the tach does not. My tach P clip has no gromet at all. Hope this helps and have a good day! John |
| John Progess |
| Hi Dan, On 'original cars' I have seen,the Tacho Cable does have a split rubber grommet which goes between the black plastic sleeving and the the twisted P clip.This is the same long split rubber grommet which goes in the metal loop under the front guard to protect the headlamp wiring harness from rubbing .(I purchased mine from Brown and Gammons).Nice to see in place with true Concours cars. I have not seen a P clip for the Speedo Cable. However,I seem to remember a listing for one in a Parts Manual which listed one for Left Hand Drive cars only ! Don't recall ever seeing a black plastic sleeve on the Speedo Cable but some of the boys with untouched cars may have witnessed something different? Cheers Rob Grantham TF3719("Aramis"),TF9177("Athos"). |
| Rob Grantham |
| Check with Doug Pelton...he's got just about all the little esoteric parts for the T-series. http://fromtheframeup.com/default.aspx |
| Gene Gillam |
Here is picture of the tach cable with sleeve and P-clip. there is no grommet for the tach cable where it goes thru the firewall. The oil pressure line has a grommet where it goes thru the firewall next to the speedo cable.
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| colin stafford |
| The speedo cable does not have either a P-clip or a plasitic sleeve where it passes thru the firewaall, but it does have a 1.0" dia rubber grommet in the firewall. Difficult to get a clear picture as is is mostly covered by the wiring harness. |
| colin stafford |
| Hey Colin, whats with the chrome? |
| LaVerne Downey |
| Thanks everyone, Colin great picture, very helpful. Rob, you say Brown and Gammons has this rubber bushing? I didn't realize the headlamp wiring had one also. Bet there arn't too many cars with that gromet still in tact. Dan H. |
| Dan Hanson |
| All the major firewall holes had to have grommets to keep the fumes and leaks off our girlfriends tulle skirts and white socks. I vaguely recall some sort of rule/legislation to this effect. Here is a pic of the crusty remains of my tacho grommet. There is also the remains of a speedo grommet on my car too. Cheers, Matthew.  |
| Matthew Magilton |
| Hi Dan, The Brown and Gammons split rubber 'bush'located between the Tacho Cables P clip black 'plastic'sleeving and the P clip itself,is part no.ACH 8529.As discussed previously,this piece also fits perfectly into the main headlamp wiring metal loop under the front guards on TF's.Therefore,you will need three per car. Matt.M quite rightly also refers to the 'other'grommets where the Tacho Cable goes through the hole in the rear of the Battery Box plus one for the Speedo.These are also on our current TF. Cheers for now. Rob Grantham. |
| Rob Grantham |
| What I see. No evidence of a rubber grommet around the tach thru the firewall. In fact the hole is so small I dont think you could get a grommet into the hole and have anything go thru it. AFA regulations on sealed firewall in 55, I doubt it. TF's have so many holes in them, it was practically impossible to seal them up. I do have the remains of the front wiring grommets that go thru the wings. Also have white chalk marks on the inside of both wings which must designate somthing.... anyone know about that? LaVerne......the "Chrome". As I drove this car in 1957 or 58, I remember the chrome valve cover, head cover and air cleaners being chrome. This was an export car to the American Zone in Germany, where GI's could puchase via the PX system. The dealer in Frankfort, Christioan Odendahl did modify cars with what "American's" wanted.....chrome. He also added heaters, Bosch, and windscreen washers, Blumels. All on our car. |
| colin stafford |
| Colin, interesting you should mention the windscreen washers. My 54 UK car had them. Had a "push" pump under the right side(drivers side) dash. Dan H. |
| Dan Hanson |
| re: Windscreen washers. This is what we have. Its plastic bag under the foot well with a hand pump on the right side of the dash, where the MG emblem was. Ours still works, but I never use it. |
| colin stafford |
| Colin, Interesting info and pic re 'twisted P clip' and grommet - thanks. Do you think the clip was originally painted black, or plated? I ask because I was about to get the clip plated, along with other bits! Cheers, John. |
| J C Mitchell |
| On examining the original Factory MG midget (Series "TF"),Illustrated List of Service Parts(1954),the following information emerges from Section K4: Protection Tube-revolution counter drive Part No.500877 Grommet-revolution counter drive Part No.134995 Bush -revolution counter cable Part No.S27/18 Grommet-speedometer cable Part No.S27/65 Clip-speedometer cable*(LHD) Part No.S52/18 This information confirms my above discussion. It is relatively easy to affix the correct Grommet where the Tacho cable enters the rear of the Battery Box. Cheers. Rob Grantham TF3719("Aramis"),TF9177("Athos"). |
| Rob Grantham |
| Hi John, Hmmm.... a good question re the original surface finish of the Tacho Cable P clip. On restored cars,including our own,the clip is Cadmium plated.However,on a very original body tub I have,it was Black. Not a 100% sure on this query. Matthew Magilton(Australia) may shed some more light on this one as he has a very original TF1500. Cheers Rob Grantham TF3719("Aramis"),TF9177("Athos"). |
| Rob Grantham |
| Hi Rob, Thanks for info - looking at Colin's photo, together with your comments, I suspect black. Matthew M - any views on this detail? Cheers, John |
| J C Mitchell |
| Black is correct. Would not be suprised if it was made in-house. Quite a different item to the electrical P clips which were cad' plate. Cheers, Matthew. |
| Matthew Magilton |
Matthew, what is this line/cable? PJ |
| Paul Jennings |
| Copper tube to oil pressure gauge. |
| George Butz |
| Correct George. Cheers, Matthew. |
| Matthew Magilton |
| Matthew, Thanks for confirmation of black, for 'twisted tacho clip' - also Rob for your info. Out with my squirrel hair paintbrush loaded with a drop of two-pack! Cheers, John |
| J C Mitchell |
| Hi John, After Matt. M has confirmed the Tacho P Clip being originally painted Black,looks like I will have to get the spray paint busy ! Been wondering if you have had finer UK weather lately to enable you to go for a blast in your TF ? Cheers Rob Grantham TF3719("Aramis"),TF9177("Athos"). |
| Rob Grantham |
| Hi Rob et al, It's been a very cold winter and late spring here in the UK. A few warm days last week but cold again - currently around 40F at mid-day! All plants are late, and the birds and bees are mystified! Just changed steering rack on TF, (as per previous thread!)-just need some decent weather to enjoy it as well as a vintage motorcycle! Cheers, John |
| J C Mitchell |
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