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MG TD TF 1500 - Valve Covers ....re-visited
|I think we might have "covered", (pun intended), this before.....|
Valve Cover: TD VS TF...
Filler cap goes to front of engine.
TD: Breather pipe, vertical to accept air cleaner "on top" of engine and on left side of cover.
TF: Breather pipe, horizontal to accept air "on side" of engine and on right side of cover.
Am I right here? I know they will both fit the engine but were there actually two different ones made?
I only ask because I have one (as described above for TF),I believe to be my orginial, but my PO had it "chromed". It's not a "biggie", as I really like the "period finned aftermarket" one I run on the car...but have wanted to "collect" an orginial finish one just to have it if I can find one at a reasonable price. I see them come up on ebay from time to time. So, were there really two versions made...or was the one I have modified before it was chromed?
Does anyone know for sure?.....does anyone besides me care?
David 55 TF1500 #7427
|Yes David there were at least two made.|
My TF has the horizontal tub on the right for the pancake air filters. The TD owners have the vertical tube for the big canister filter.
I am sending a photo of my "original" engine
|Picture # 3 for the TD|
TF Valve Cover here:
The BIG controversy is what color to paint it. Ranging from silver to various forms of grey, greenish grey to silver-green.
|David, Have you ever compaired the tappet noise level of the cast aluminium cover compaired with the original steel cover? The theory is that the heavy aluminium cover should be quieter. A PO had my steel cover (and tappet side cover) chromed which I have left as is, as it does not look TOO bad. Our family car in the early 60's, a Vangard Sportsman had a polished aluminium valve cover and the motor (a detuned TR3) was inaudible when idling.|
A world of differance. It's easy to see why so many different aftermarket covers were sold...and why so many orginials were discarded! When I first purchased the car it was fitted with a "coffin type" alum cover.
The "breather pipe" on that one was "vertical" with a rubber tube bent in half held with a zip tie and a pcv valve stuck down it's throat. Although functional..it was rather offensive looking! The cover I feel was the orginial was jammed in the side curtain storage boot along with the black Volks air cleaners, but has been rather poorly chromed. I located a NOS period finned polished alum valve & tappet cover (no provision for the breather tube on Valve cover) I use that on the car along with chrome air cleaners with some KNH filters I modified to fit them. It looks good & I like it. I would just like to find a good example of the orginial to match up with correct air cleaners & tappet cover should I ever decide to go the "concourse" route it would be nice to have all the pieces to do so. It's one of the few pieces I do not have to return the car to "orginial & correct". There is one on ebay right now with a starting bid of $10.00 (vertical pipe)...needs blasted and painted...it's red!
David 55 TF1500 #7427
|David, if you have a TF and this is the ebay item you are looking at, isn't it wrong for your car? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34202&item=2458086749|
|D F Sexton|
|Further, I don't know of any TD/xpag/xpeg which came with this style valve cover http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34202&item=2457970209|
|D F Sexton|
|David - regarding your comment: "does anyone besides me care?". At least a couple of people do. I bought an original cover on ebay for my TF (with the horizontal pipe) last September and had a number of other bidders. (I wound up paying $34 plus shipping). Like you, I wanted one to be "complete", but I have no intention of every replacing the finned version that was on the car when I got it.|
|Dennis, That was the one I looked at... but felt it was the wrong one. Seller on that one seems like a nice guy. I let him know I felt it was for a TD and he sent me a nice thank you for the info. That other one you gave link to looks more like an Austin cover to me. You would have a hell a of a time trying to get that one on an XPAG or XPEG due to where the mounting holes are! (Not "offset" like on our "T" cars!)|
I believe the E-Bay item ending in .. 209 is in fact an early BMC 'A'-Series valve cover and Dave Sheward is right.
I am very cautious what I buy on E-Bay as I have been ripped-off twice - BigTime
First I bough a set of "sidescreens" for a TF. They turned out to be covers, and although new, were absolutely crappy as they would have to be tailored to fit and certainly not worth $250.
The second was worse. I paid $450 for a Panasonic Digital camera with Leica optics. Yeah it was that, but a European model - no english manual, no North American Guarantee, and a European power supply. I now want the latest firmware up-grade and I'm excluded, unless I pay the $175 fee to flash my CMOS.
From now on its CavŠt Emptor!
|Gordon A. Clark|
|I agree with Gord its caveat emptor on ebay. Can't say that I have been ripped off but have certainly been dissapointed more than once.EG bought a Radiomoible 50s radio a few years back for spare parts, the picture looked great but when I eventually got it the lettering on the dial was so faded as to be unreconizable and all the screws holding the body to the chassis were missing. Bait picture?|
Besides T MG stuff I bid on old fishing tackle , mostly Hardy and from 1890 to 1965. Many of the vendors havn't a clue about it except that it is "old" and therefor valuable. If something is of interest I ask lots of questions get mostly straight answers and probably bid on 1 in 20 and succeed in 1 in 100.
The next time the item doesn't match the description or the answers to the questions I am going to utilize ebays system for redress and I will have it all in writing. Terry
This thread was discussed between 03/02/2004 and 05/02/2004
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